Robinson's and Holding's pre-70 case, the mainstream post-70 consensus resting on Mark 13 as prophecy-after-the-fact, and the abandoned second-century dating of Baur's Tübingen School
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When were Matthew, Mark, and Luke written, and does the evidence favor composition before or after the fall of Jerusalem in 70 CE?
Why it matters
The date of the Synoptic Gospels is a load-bearing joint in almost every larger debate about Jesus. If Mark, Matthew, and Luke were written within a generation of the crucifixion — while eyewitnesses were still alive to correct the record — then the legendary-development hypothesis that underwrites much skeptical reconstruction loses its most important resource: time. If instead the Synoptics were composed decades later, in communities cut off from firsthand memory, the space for theological invention widens considerably. This is why the dating question recurs at the end of the resurrection debate: see The Resurrection of Jesus — Historicity, whose summary notes that "if the gospels are dated late, the legendary-development hypothesis gains traction."
The stakes are sharpened by the fact that the single most important dating argument is theological in a hidden way. The mainstream placement of Mark at or just after 70 CE rests largely on reading Jesus' prediction of the Temple's destruction (Mark 13:1-2 (bib)) as a vaticinium ex eventu — a "prophecy" composed after the event it appears to foretell. Whether one finds that compelling turns in part on a prior commitment about whether genuine predictive prophecy is possible. This article states the ex-eventu argument at full strength — it is a real historical argument, not mere anti-supernatural reflex — then gives the early-dating rejoinder its own full hearing.
The debate
All parties accept a shared framework:
- The Synoptic Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke) stand in a literary relationship: most scholars hold Marcan priority (Mark first, used by Matthew and Luke), though the Tübingen School and some revisionists held Matthean priority.
- Luke's preface explicitly presupposes earlier written accounts: "Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us... it seemed good to me also... to write unto thee in order" (Luke 1:1-4 (bib), KJV).
- Each Synoptic contains Jesus' Olivet prediction that the Temple would be destroyed (Mark 13:1-2; Matt 24; Luke 21).
- The earliest external tradition on Gospel origins is preserved by Eusebius, quoting Papias (early second century): Mark was "the interpreter of Peter" and Matthew "wrote the oracles in the Hebrew language" (Eusebius, Eccl. Hist. III.39.15-16).
The dispute is over when the Synoptics were fixed in the form we have. Three families of view:
1. Early Dating (pre-70) — all three Synoptics, and Acts, were composed before the fall of Jerusalem (Robinson; Holding; the internal-evidence tradition).
2. Mainstream Post-70 Dating — Mark ~70, Matthew and Luke ~80–90, resting substantially on the ex-eventu reading of Mark 13 plus perceived signs of later community development (the modern critical consensus; Harnack's What is Christianity? dates Luke to Domitian's reign).
3. Radical Late Dating (2nd century) — the older Tübingen position (Baur), which placed much Gospel material well into the second century on tendency-critical grounds; now essentially abandoned.
The early-dating view holds that Matthew, Mark, and Luke — and the Acts of the Apostles — were all composed before the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 CE, and possibly well before. Its most striking champion is John A. T. Robinson, a theologically liberal Anglican bishop with no apologetic stake, whose Redating the New Testament (1976) argued that the entire New Testament was written before 70. Contemporary apologists such as James Patrick Holding (Tektonics) and Glenn Miller (Christian Think-Tank) develop the internal-evidence case in detail. The view is a maximalist one: it takes the Gospels' incidental first-century detail and the abrupt ending of Acts as positive markers of early composition, not as literary artifice.
Formal statement
Acts ends abruptly with Paul alive under house arrest (Acts 28:30-31 (bib)), narrating neither Paul's death (~64–67), nor the Neronian persecution (64), nor the fall of Jerusalem (70) — events a later author writing the theme of the gospel's triumphant advance to Rome would be expected to include.
If Marcan priority holds, Mark (a source of Luke) is earlier still.
The Synoptics refer to the Temple, its tax, and pre-70 Jewish groups in the present tense and with an accuracy that fits a standing Temple.
The earliest external tradition (Papias, Irenaeus, Clement via Eusebius) attributes the Gospels to Mark, Matthew, and Luke and connects Mark and Matthew to the apostolic generation.
Therefore the Synoptics are best dated before 70 CE.
Key evidence / textual basis
The abrupt-ending argument is the load-bearing internal datum. Acts closes: "And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house... Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him" (Acts 28:30-31 (bib), KJV). The narrative simply stops, with its protagonist alive and the outcome of his appeal to Caesar unresolved. On the early-dating reading, the most economical explanation is that Luke wrote when Paul was still in that house — that is, ~62 CE, before Paul's death, the Neronian fire, or the Jewish War.
Since Acts is the second volume of Luke's work (Acts 1:1), Luke's Gospel is earlier still, and if it drew on Mark, Mark is earlier again. Miller's composition timeline builds this chain and adds a further datum: 1 Tim 5:18 (bib) quotes Luke 10:7 (bib) with the citation formula "the Scripture says," placing a written, authoritative Luke in the leadership's hands by the late 50s (Miller, Critique of NT Reliability §13). Miller's own dates — "Matthew basically written" ~40, Mark ~45, Luke ~54, on a "recently-revived Matthean-priority scheme" — are aggressive, but the operative claim is only that written Synoptic material was circulating by mid-century.
On Mark 13 and the Temple, Holding argues the internal signals point before 70: the Temple is referred to casually and in the present tense, and Jesus' instruction to "flee to the mountains" does not match the events of 68–70, when refugees fled into Jerusalem and Christians fled to Pella in the Decapolis, "which is decidedly not where Jesus said to flee" (Holding, Mark §13). He adds material accuracy: "No New Testament author portrays the different groups in Jewish Palestine at the time of Jesus as accurately as Mark," a landscape swept away by 70 (Holding, Mark).
The external tradition supplies the frame. Papias, as quoted by Eusebius, gives the earliest attestation: "Mark, having become the interpreter of Peter, wrote down accurately, though not in order, whatsoever he remembered," and "Matthew wrote the oracles in the Hebrew language, and every one interpreted them as he was able" (Eusebius, Eccl. Hist. III.39.15-16). Eusebius' summary of the order places Matthew first, then Mark and Luke, then John (Eusebius, Eccl. Hist. III.24.6-7); Clement of Alexandria's tradition, also in Eusebius, has "the Gospels containing the genealogies... written first," with Mark arising from Peter's preaching at Rome (Eusebius, Eccl. Hist. VI.14.5-7). None of this dates the Gospels precisely, but it ties them to the apostolic generation and its interpreters.
Leading proponents
John A. T. Robinson — Redating the New Testament (1976); a liberal bishop whose non-apologetic pre-70 argument is the view's most rhetorically powerful witness. Not in corpus (copyright); cited via the secondary discussion in Holding, who repeatedly leans on "Robin.RNT" (Holding, Mark).
James Patrick Holding — Tektonics authorship-and-dating essays; the fullest in-corpus internal-evidence case.
Glenn Miller — Christian Think-Tank composition series; the abrupt-ending and 1 Tim 5:18 arguments.
Strongest counter-arguments
The early-dating case is vulnerable at three joints. First, the abrupt ending of Acts is over-interpreted: Luke's stated theme is the gospel's advance "unto the uttermost part of the earth" (Acts 1:8 (bib)), and reaching Rome fulfills it — the narrative may end where it does for literary and theological reasons, not because the author knew no more. Ancient works frequently end at a thematic climax rather than a biographical one. Second, the Papias tradition is contested: critics from Kümmel onward hold that Papias "had no reliable knowledge of the connection of Mark with Peter" (Holding, Mark, reporting and rejecting the objection), and Eusebius himself judged Papias "of very limited understanding" (Eusebius, Eccl. Hist. III.39.13). Third, Robinson's blanket pre-70 dating of the whole NT is idiosyncratic even among conservatives; treating it as consensus overstates its acceptance.
Responses
Early-daters reply on each point. On the ending of Acts: the theological-climax reading is possible, but it must still explain the total silence about Paul's fate, Nero, and 70 — more naturally explained by ignorance (early composition) than by choice. On Papias: Bauckham has shown that Papias "deliberately uses the terminology of historiographic practice," and that Eusebius' complaint about Papias' "limited understanding" concerned his eschatology, not his competence to report who wrote a book (Holding, Matthew). On idiosyncrasy: the early-dating of the Synoptics (as against the whole NT) is far more widely held than Robinson's maximal thesis. The genre point reinforces the case: if the Gospels are ancient bioi (lives), as Talbert and Burridge argue, they were expected to preserve accurate biographical tradition, and the classification "invites interpretation" without licensing wholesale invention (Holding, Gospels as Biographies).
Assessment
Assessment: Live — the pre-70 dating of the Synoptics is a serious minority position with a genuinely non-apologetic champion in Robinson, and its internal-evidence arguments (the abrupt ending, present-tense Temple references, contemporary-sounding names) are real data that the majority view must accommodate rather than dismiss. Its weakest link is the inference from silence at the end of Acts, which admits a literary-theological alternative. The view is stronger for the earliest Synoptic layer (Mark) than for the finished Matthew and Luke.
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Mainstream Post-70 Dating
Stancemoderate·Assessmentstrong·ProponentsHarnack Adolf
Abstract
The mainstream critical view dates Mark at or shortly after 70 CE and Matthew and Luke to roughly 80–90. Its central pillar is the reading of Mark 13 (and its Synoptic parallels) as vaticinium ex eventu — a prediction written up after the Temple's fall — supplemented by perceived signs of developed church order, Christology, and Jewish-Christian estrangement. This is not merely skeptical reflex: it is a cumulative literary-historical argument, and it is the position of most working New Testament scholars. Our corpus preserves it through Adolf von Harnack, whose What is Christianity? (1900) dates the Third Gospel to "the time of Domitian" (81–96) — a moderate, non-radical placement.
Formal statement
Mark 13 (par. Matt 24, Luke 21) contains a detailed prediction of the Temple's destruction, which occurred in 70 CE.
On a naturalistic account of prophecy, such specificity is best explained if the text was composed after the event.
Luke 21:20 (bib) sharpens the prediction into "Jerusalem compassed with armies," which reads as knowledge of the actual siege.
Matthew and Luke depend on Mark and show further-developed church structures, liturgical formulae, and post-70 Jewish-Christian tension.
Therefore Mark dates ~70 and Matthew/Luke ~80–90.
Key evidence / textual basis
Harnack's placement of Luke is explicit and untendentious: the Third Gospel "was composed by a Greek, probably in the time of Domitian," by an author who in Acts "shows us that he was familiar with the literary language of his nation" yet in the Gospel "did not dare to abandon the traditional type" (Harnack 1900, Lecture II, p.22). Harnack also affirms Marcan priority as a source-critical fact: testing Luke "by his authorities, we find that he has kept in the main to Mark's Gospel, and to a source which we also find appearing again in Matthew" (Harnack 1900, p.22). This is the ordinary two-source picture that undergirds the ~70/~85 chronology: if Luke used Mark and "Q," Mark is the earliest, and the finished Gospels are correspondingly later.
The ex-eventu argument as applied to Matthew is reported (in order to be rebutted) by Holding: critics cite "specific passages in Matthew (21:41-5, 22:7, 24:15, and 27:25) as betraying knowledge of the Roman War, thus requiring a date after 70" (Holding, Matthew). Matt 24:15 (bib) invokes "the abomination of desolation... standing in the holy place"; the parable of the king who "sent forth his armies... and burned up their city" (Matt 22:7 (bib)) is read as an allusion to the burning of Jerusalem. The mainstream case is that the convergence of these signals — the sharpened siege language, the developed ecclesiology, the Pharisee-centered Judaism reflecting the post-70 rabbinic reorganization — is more economically explained by post-70 composition than by prophecy plus coincidence.
In fairness to the consensus: the ex-eventu inference does not strictly require denying predictive prophecy. Even granting that Jesus could predict the Temple's fall, a historian may reasonably judge that the specific form of the Lukan wording, plus the clustering of post-70 features, is better evidence for a post-70 evangelist than for a pre-70 one. That probabilistic literary judgment is the real spine of the majority view.
Leading proponents
Adolf von Harnack — What is Christianity? (1900): Luke under Domitian; Marcan priority; the moderate liberal consensus. In corpus. (Note the irony below: Harnack himself later re-dated Acts and the Synoptics much earlier — see the What-Did-They-Hold section.)
Werner Kümmel — Introduction to the New Testament (1973); the standard mid-century statement of the post-70 case, cited throughout Holding's essays. Not in corpus.
Bart Ehrman (Bart D. Ehrman) — represents the contemporary popular consensus for Mark ~70, Matthew/Luke ~80–90. Not in corpus for this article.
Strongest counter-arguments
The early-daters press three objections. First, the internal Temple references cut the other way: the Synoptics speak of the Temple as standing and its tax as operative, and preserve the son-of-Ananias-style prediction genre without noting its fulfillment — silence a post-70 author would have found hard to maintain (Holding, Mark §13). Second, the "flee to the mountains" instruction misdescribes 70: it does not match how the war actually unfolded, which is odd if the passage was written to fit known events. Third, the developed-community arguments are unquantified: how many mentions of Pharisees, or how "fixed" a baptismal formula, is supposed to mark a date? Holding notes that Matthew mentions the Sadducees — who lost power after 70 — as often as the rest of the NT combined, an argument that "can be turned on its head just as easily" to suggest a pre-70 setting (Holding, Matthew).
Responses
Defenders of the consensus reply that (i) present-tense Temple language is unremarkable in a narrative set before 70 regardless of composition date; (ii) the "flee to the mountains" logion may be traditional material Mark inherited, so its imperfect fit with 70 tells against neither an ex-eventu core nor a post-70 Gospel; and (iii) the developed-community signals are cumulative, not single knock-down proofs. Above all, the consensus rests on the specificity of Luke 21:20's siege language, which the tradition-history reply does not fully neutralize. The debate turns on how much weight one assigns to prophetic specificity versus incidental first-century verisimilitude.
Assessment
Assessment: Strong — this is the position of most working critical scholars, and its cumulative literary-historical case (ex-eventu specificity plus developed-community signals plus the two-source chronology) is coherent and well-defended. Its persuasive force depends on the weight one gives to the prophecy-specificity argument; its honest vulnerability is that several of its supplementary indicators (Pharisee frequency, "their synagogue," formulaic baptism) are softer and reversible than they are often presented.
The radical late-dating view, associated with Ferdinand Christian Baur and the nineteenth-century Tübingen School, placed much Gospel material — and especially John — well into the second century, on the ground that the writings reflect later stages of a Hegelian developmental history of the early Church. This view is now essentially abandoned, defeated by manuscript discoveries (notably the John Rylands papyrus P52) and by the recognition that its dating criteria were driven by a philosophical schema rather than external evidence. It is included here because it defines one pole of the spectrum and because its collapse is instructive.
Formal statement
The early Church developed dialectically: a Petrine (Jewish-Christian) thesis, a Pauline (Gentile) antithesis, and a later Catholic synthesis.
Each New Testament writing can be dated by which stage of that development its "tendency" reflects.
Writings displaying a conciliatory, catholicizing tendency (including much Gospel material and all of John) belong to the mid-second century.
Therefore the Gospels are, in substantial part, second-century compositions.
Key evidence / textual basis
Schweitzer records the Tübingen framework and its fate. Baur held Matthean priority — "Baur and his school rightly gave it preference" — against the Marcan hypothesis of Weisse (1856) and Holtzmann (1863) that eventually displaced it (Schweitzer 1906, ch. VII). The Tübingen School "first fully established" the necessity of "choosing between John and the Synoptists," and its late-dating of John flowed from the tendency-critical schema (Schweitzer 1906). The crucial point for dating is methodological: Tübingen dates were fixed by where a text fit the dialectic, not by attestation or manuscript evidence — which is exactly why the school's chronology could not survive contact with hard external data. {{UNSOURCED: Baur's own dating figures for individual Gospels — our only in-corpus access is Schweitzer's survey, which characterizes the school's method more than it tabulates its dates.}}
Leading proponents
Ferdinand Christian Baur — founder of the Tübingen School; tendency-criticism and second-century dating. In corpus only via Schweitzer.
The "Dutch Radical School" (Loman, van Manen) — extended second-century dating to the Pauline corpus; not in corpus.
Strongest counter-arguments
The decisive objection is manuscript evidence. The John Rylands fragment P52, palaeographically dated ~125 CE, places a copy of John in provincial Egypt within a generation of Baur's proposed composition date — chronologically impossible on the Tübingen scheme. More broadly, the papyrological record — including the disputed 7Q5 fragment, argued by O'Callaghan to be Mark and palaeographically dated as late as ~50 CE (Miller, Critique §17-20) — pushes the Gospels' existence far earlier than second-century composition allows. Second, the second-century external attestation (Papias, Irenaeus, the Muratorian Canon) presupposes Gospels already old and apostolically connected. Third, Schweitzer's verdict on the radical program's arbitrariness — rendered against Bruno Bauer but applicable to the school's dating instincts — is that its reconstruction "is effected in so arbitrary a fashion that it refutes itself" (Schweitzer 1906, ch. XI, p.157).
Responses
There is little live defense of the strong Tübingen dating today; the view is of historical interest rather than a going concern. A charitable reconstruction would say that Baur was right to insist that Gospel texts have a tendency and a history — a permanent gain for critical scholarship — even though he was wrong to convert that insight into second-century dates. The enduring residue of the Tübingen program is redaction criticism, not its chronology.
Assessment
Assessment: Fringe — the strong second-century dating of the Synoptics is abandoned, decisively refuted by P52 and the broader manuscript record and by the recognition that its criteria were schema-driven. Its inclusion marks the naturalistic pole of the spectrum and illustrates how a dating argument governed by a philosophy of history rather than by evidence fails.
Kritik der evangelischen Geschichte (1841) — via Schweitzer
The dating of the Synoptics rewards honesty on both sides. The seeker should resist two temptations: treating pre-70 dating as proven, and treating the ex-eventu reading of Mark 13 as a neutral historical result rather than a judgment that leans, in part, on a prior view of prophecy. The strongest datum for early dating — the abrupt ending of Acts, with Paul alive and Jerusalem still standing — is genuinely striking, and it is telling that a liberal bishop with no confessional stake, John Robinson, found it compelling enough to redate the whole New Testament. The strongest datum for the consensus — the specificity of Luke's siege language and the convergence of post-70 community signals — is equally real. What both sides share is that even the latest responsible dating of the finished Gospels leaves the earliest resurrection tradition (1 Cor 15) untouched in the mid-30s, too early for legend to have done its work on the core claim. The date of the Gospels is a live and worthwhile debate; it is not, by itself, the hinge on which the historical case for Christianity turns.
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